Obama and November 22
November 17th 2008 00:26
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Fanatical rednecks inclusive of driven unstables such as Shawn Adolf and his cousin Tharin Gartrell and white supremacist ideologists now have the motivation they need to risk their own lives, if necessary, to prevent a black man from entering the Oval Office.
(Or, as a friend reported Adolf as saying: "No nigger should ever live in the White House.")
It unfortunately appears to be a case of ‘when’ and not ‘if’.
Posts including Gunnshots: Straight from The Hip are just the tip of the public sentiment iceberg which is laying dorment.
My fear of course is that Barack Obama, his family and progressive, rational thinking people of the world will be robbed of the chance to see a true statesman, father, and leader.
I'm certain come November 22, the date of former President Kennedy's slaying as he travelled in an open car in a motorcade in Dallas - will be the first of many high priority days for 'All the Presidents Men'.
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Comment by Damo
Supposition is the mother of hysterics.
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Tell me there's no loonies out there and I'll tell you that its better to be forwarned and forearmed.
Cheers buddy
Comment by Howard
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Conspiracy theories aside - I suspect it's not only the loons, white supremeists and nutters out there that feel the need.
Chaos - would be putting it mildly.
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Interesting anaolgy!
Comment by Johnny Come Lately
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It would be a very scary place to be if anything does happen. The US would be torn apart.
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I agree . . . no doubt a double whammy for any nutter.
Look to cement your place in history through an outrageous/misguided act and send a nation into a heady political/social mallee.
Wonder what the sign-up rate's been lately for the Secret Service and those prepared to take a bullet for the President.
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i think its important that he maintains a confident facade even if he employs a hundred security staff behind the scenes
gun sales across the USA have gone up because the public believe they need to stock up incase Obama tightens gun control
i think Obama is coming into a fairly hostile environment, and there are probably more threats on his life than his PR team choose to report
ive noticed hes still doing fairly normal things like going to the gym, lets hope he doesnt get scared away from normality by these threats
those white supremicists were the second plot that has been uncovered, the first was in August, the attempt was scheduled for the DNC convention, the culprits admitted that they had come to Denver to kill Obama, and said their plan was to "shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a rifle sighted at 750 yards."
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I agree in essence with what you say Morgan - my fear though is that one crazy - who plants himself somewhere, sometime on that grassy knol.
Let's hope for all our sake's it simply never transpires.
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I read on the BBC that he just gave an interview to CBS and stated his intention to close Guantanamo. "I'm going to make sure we do not torture". He hasn't been inaugurated yet and already he is a better president than the last one....Okay I know that doesn't take much but still...
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actually i think you may be right!
there were two reported in August, the one i talked about above was three men in late August, but in the first week of August a man called Raymond Hunter Geisel allegedly had a plot to assassinate Obama
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actually, being the cynic i am, i bet they capture Osama Bin Laden shortly after Barack Obama settles in . . . i find it hard to believe that they dont already know where he is, i think their covert intelligence people have been witholding the information so they could keep up the pretense that this is what these wars have been about
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Comment by Lilla
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You have hit the nail on the head here, I think.
If it suits the agenda to assasinate this fellow, then nothing will protect him.
Howards words sent a shiver through my spine, for there would be no better way than to start hysterical rioting possibly with many deaths. Cull the population, put who they really want in, in ... and pass some more bills through depriving even more liberrties, whlst everyone is looking the other way... and all before lunch.
I hope to God we are all wrong.
Lilla ...
Comment by Sara Dobson
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Good article. It is disappointing to know that there are still so many rednecks in the US - mostly in the South I think.
I read that Obama has the potential to be as popular as JFK. I hope it doesn't end the same way for him or his family.
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A person with the name Adolf (even if not his first name) is worth worrying about. I bet it wasn't the family name he was born into.
Good post.
Janet
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It appears that Obama not only inspires through great oratory (in a similar vein to Kennedy) but has enormous substance and is in touch with the people.
I think (no I'm sure) we are all about to be witness to a new era - one which historians will recount in years to come.
Cheers
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That's a big call . . .
Hats off to you if you're on the money though.
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. . . an even bigger call again!
My understanding is that they're drinking fluffy ducks not martinis
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What can I say?
Every day will be more than simply a challenge. You'd think life would be tough enough digging the US out of its current economic and political state . . . let alone rebuilding an international reputation - oh and wondering if some crazy is about to take you out!
A Lee Oswald or a Jack Ruby we don't need all over again.
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Both will go down in history as great speech writers and orators - both were connected to the people and both inspired confidence, pride and great enthusiasm for tomorrow.
Let's hope Obama can not only deliver but is given the opportunity to.
Cheers
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Yeah - like who in all honesty decides that 'llittle Adolf" would be the most appropriate name for their newborn son?
Now if his father's name was Atilla - then perhaps I would believe it.
Stay well
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If I was into the idea of killing people, which I am most certainly am not, I'd have pointed at Bush and his cronies, not Obama.
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I researched into assassination attempts on past U.S. presidents, and found that there haven't been any since Ronald Reagan's in 1980 (ref.: infoplease )
There were a few on Wikipedia for G.W. Bush, but they were pretty lame--one guy stood outside the White House fence and shot a gun into the air.
Now, whether this can be chalked up to increased security or to unanimous public satisfaction at a job well done by all presidents since Reagan (HAHA!!) remains a mystery.
I imagine that president-elect Obama will receive the same obviously extensive security that recent presidents have had. I mean, it's not like no one ever wanted to kill either of the Bushes. Weird coincidence, huh?
Ruby: Logic dictates that Bin Laden is long dead, perhaps since 2002. He was very ill with liver cancer, for which he was being treated in the U.S. prior to 9/11/01. I don't imagine one can find sophisticated medical treatment centers for cancer in the caves of Afghanistan whilst in hiding from a large portion of the world...
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Somehow I don't think Best and Worst come into some people's thinking.
It's as black and white as that I'm afraid.
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First Roswell - now Bin Laden - can't wait for the National Enquirer to uncover it
Cheers buddy
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You make some interesting points. I remember the Ronald Regan assassination attempt - in fact I was on work experience when the news was beamed around the country.
As for those Afgahni caves - well I'm sure there's at least one magic lantern left in there somewhere which needs a genie released.
Always a pleasure
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You . . . cynical . . . never.
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I think Political Marketing figured that Bin-Laden was far more useful as a fugitive in the long run. Any time our gov. needs an excuse for attacking more innocent civilians in the Middle East, they can trot out good ol' (dead) Osama and say he's making threats against "Amerikuns" again and is now hiding in (Syria, Pakistan, Iraq--wherever they want to send more troops).
Now that people are starting to suspect that old saw, they have brought out--have you seen this? --"Son of Bin-Laden".
I don't know whether to laugh or knock my head against the wall....although the thought of the U.S. gov. using a dead guy as leverage kind of strikes me funny in a really sick way.
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Is there a TAFE or uni course in political marketing?
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Does Kerry Ann Kennally count?
Comment by Mountain Fog
Are you trawling through my old posts and revamping them?? (just joking, I'm not actually angry!)
But, looky here old chasp...
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Oh, in case you are stuck for ideas today, maybe this will help?
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te hee!
cheers
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Comment by Mountain Fog
on this particular (and updated) version of the assassination plots concerning Obama, I don't think he has anything to worry about, from the red neck morons that is.
But, maybe he will need to worry if he upsets the industrial-military complex, as Eisenhower referred to them.
The same group who got JFK.
On the idea that Oswald did it... what a joke!
In case any of you still think as much, I remember seeing on the news at the time, just some months after JFK was killed, the results of the simulation tests the USA military top marksmen used to check Oswald's rifle.
Oswald's rifle was so inaccurate they just couldn't get all te shots off in time, or even hit the vehicle I seem to remember, in the time Oswald had to shoot all those bullets... , (they set up the test as if the shots came from the Book Depository and used a moving open vehicle with sand bags for people). they discovered the sights were inaccurate, and by the way, NO BALLISTIC tests were done to prove any bullets came from Oswald's rifle!
Then there is the "magic bullet" that did a right angle turn mid air....because of the angle of trajectory meant it must of come from a different direction than where Oswald was allegedly positioned, so they had to invent a pathetic and non-sensical, utterly preposterous notion that defied the laws of physics, to justify their standpoint that Oswald acted alone, by making one bullet turn mid air.
The official story, and the highly restrained and limited Warren Commission investigation, was all utter bullshit.
A mountian of evidence and eye witness accounts were refused admission, as it later was discovered.
Finally, approximately 100 key eye witnesses who came forward initially, all died within two years of JFK's death.
Another amazing and statistically impossible result, eh wot guvner?
Many years later, another investigation was held, due to the incredible lask of faith in the original investigation and it too was a complete joke, designed to make Oswald appear guilty and the lone gunman, flying in the face of physics, eye witness testimonies and logic.
So, Obama has nothing to worry about.. if he tows the line the big end of town wants him to...
cheers
fog
Comment by Lilla
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Foggly is right here, its about as pathetic as the investigation in 911, which also emitted some rather fatantiscal details defying the laws of physics?
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OK - you've discovered my thinly disguised facade . . . I'll split the .02c takings with you and we can paint the town beige
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. . . and besides - we all know that it was aliens who shot JFK - or was it one of Marilyn Monroe's host of lovers - nup - it was Richie Benaud - don't think he has ever adequately supplied an alibi now has he - hmmmm?
Cheers bud
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Terrance Trent Darby is another one who I would expect could well fall into the category of the criminal type - well his music at least.
As for 911 and JFK - once again - where was ritchie benaud on both occassions?
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Good post, MNG.
Mich
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either that was your peculiar style of humour, or you have suffered frontal lobe damage if you think Oswald was the lone culprit!
cheers
fog
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Hear hear . . .
Great to - err - see you again - hope you're well.
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Thought you'd know me by now . . .
Of course the ostrich did it and Daryl Somers had a hand in it as well.
Opps - wrong Oswald . . .
Comment by justmesuzanne
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Good heavens! What would Jesus do? Certainly not defame Barack Obama or anyone else, I daresay. President Obama is going to need all the support and Christian love we can give him to try to pull us out of the God-awful mess created by GW Bush and his wealthier by the minute cronies.
This kind of Christian Hate Fest is not only in poor taste, it is un-Christian. I suggest you remove this offensive piece of writing and get with the program. We will all do well to put our best foot forward and pull together for the good of our nation, the world, and ourselves.
Peace be with you.
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I hope that all of us who support President Elect Obama will remember that we must concentrate on supporting and empowering him and not be made afraid by fanatics and loonies. I am glad he had a bullet-proof shield around him. That's sensible. I am glad the secret service is looking out for him. I hope and pray that they continue to do their job with competence and efficiency. Of course he is going to face threats. Those of us who support him, just need to continue to send him well-wishes and prayers and be open about our support of him.
I flagged the article I mentioned as hate mongering. You can find it here:
Is Barack Hussein Obama the Antichrist of the End Time?
If you agree with me that it is nothing more than pure hate mongering, I hope you will take a moment to flag it and request that it be removed.
We will all need to be strong and diligent together to help President Elect Obama have a safe and successful time in office.
Blessings,
Suzanne
Comment by Mountain Fog
look, I get all my inside info from the rabbit, (the big pink one, not the blue one as insinuated in lesser and badly researched conspiracy theories about intel sources).
Anyhoo, we live in interesting times.... Oh to be back on the beach as a lad with sunburn and a two shilling, newspaper wrapped, large fish and chips!!
cheers
fog
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I remember seeing so many different shows about the JFK assassination. it has been shown time and time again that it couldn't have been Oswald. In case certain right leaning people see that comment - no I do not mean Oliver Stone's JFK film! I refer to actual reenactments (with dummies of course) and experts, and real documents.
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Yes, three foiled plots. the most recent was barely a plot though. Luckily many extremist rednecks, god love em, aren't the brightest of homosapians. (for those right leaning again - that says sapians not..well you know) Their plan began with a burglary to raise money for their plot, but they got caught at that early stage.
Unfortunately I agree there will be many, many more plots and attempts. To the point where they will stop reporting about them because they will realize it is encouraging some other loonies to try just to get their name written in history forever.
As far as Bin Laden, I agree with D.'s latter statement. He's long dead. They had to keep it hidden so they could continue whatever wars they wanted to, including those against their own citizens rights under things like the Patriot Act. :: waves to government official that might be reading this right now ::: the only thing that sways me from that thinking was his son's offer to try and negotiate some sort of peaceful resolution. Why would he do so if he was dead, although maybe he simply meant the organization itself, rather than his dad.
Actually, the first Bush had an assassination attempt, but it was while in Kuwait, and launched by some suicide bombers.
Clinton had two assassination attempts against him. The first was Frank Eugene Corder who stole a Cessna on September 11, 1994 and flew it in the south lawn of the White House grounds. He didn't have very good aim. Especially since the Clintons were nowhere near the White House at the time.
On October 29, 1994, Francisco Martin Duran fired 29 shots with an assault rifle into a group of men in suits on the lawn at the White House. He thought one of them was Bill Clinton.
Robert Pickett fired shots in the general direction of the White House in February, 2001. They couldn't prove W. was the actual target though.
While in Georgia (the country) Vladimir Arutyunian threw a live grenade at the stage where W. was speaking.
Hopefully none of the idiots will succeed. I do think their lifestyles will have to change a bit for safety's sake. They do have such great security though that they might not have to change too, too much.
Enough rambling for now,
Gene
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Sanctify anything by citing religion and if you challenge it - you are immediately labelled and ostracized.
I can't honestly believe people can continually use this crutch and expect anything but what they dish up in return.
Nice retort.
Stay well my friend
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Don't forget the scallops old boy.
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Nice summary - let me guess - you were once the third speaker in your school debating team - huh?
Time will now be the judge - let's hope that history simply doesn't repeat itself - the world deserves a leader of clear mind, direction and strength - with the purpose of the people at heart.
Cheers champ
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Just as an aside for Janet, I did a search and there are supposedly 16,813 people registered in the USA with the first name Adlolph and 1,528 with the first name Adolf. There are 520 people with the surname Adolf and 1,834 with the surname Adolph. The name does not have the same stigma attached in many Latin American countries and remains a reasonably popular name.
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I agree with what you say . . . let's hope that we are shown to be sooooo wrong on all levels.
BTW - Nice detective work - I suspect there may well be fewer Atilla's out there.
Cheers
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I wonder if anyone who has the name Adolph has ever made it to Hollywood has been encouraged to change their name. After all, many of the big movie producers are Jewish.
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The assassination attempts seem to have been half-hearted and poorly thought out. Never-the-less, the security services seem to like to congratulate themselves for corralling a bunch of disorganised lunatics, while conveniently forgetting that they failed to see four planes getting hijacked and three flying into buildings.
Also, it seems that men of peace with the name John are great targets for assassination: John F Kennedy, John Paul II and John Lennon come to mind.
Certifiable maniacs like Bush seem to be immune to other certifiable maniacs.
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The only Hollywood star I've ever heard of was Adolph Menjou..around the Shirley Temple days, I think..
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That's an interesting slant . . . and you're right - with such a profusion of Jewish mogul calling Hollywood home - you'd think any budding star would need very little encouragement - lest a life of obscurity off Broadway.
Cheers
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I can't help but recall just how close someone managed to get to Reagan in the 80's - and with Obama such a people person - the last thing he (or anyone other the the loonies at least) would want, is to start seeing him in something akin to the Pope Mobile.
Let's hope humanity and sense prevail.
Stay well
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Nice pick up . . . you're good!
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The actor A. Martinez (he has only ever gone by his first initial) has the first name of Adolfo - which is anglicised to Adolf - changed his name because he thought it would hurt his career. He's been in many things but is probably best remembered for LA Law.
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Ever thought of creating a blog Ask Cheryl? Might be something to think about.
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You are a font of knowledge . . .
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I concur . . . not sure if Cheryl wants the mountain brought to her though.
Cheers
Comment by Howard
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Hinckley came within a fraction of an inch of killing Ronald Reagan, the bullet was that close to Reagan's heart. Note that John Hinckley's brother was scheduled to meet the brother of Pres. Bush a couple of days later. The Hinckleys were family friends of the Bushes. A coincidence, or a manipulation of the incestuous world of Yalies. (Yale U. and Skull and Bones). Very British, you know. Ha ha. You fought Kaos, you know about that.
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You are spot on.
The world would have you believe that Hinckley attempt was opportunistic and almost random - the truth lies in the detail.
. . . would you believe . . . .
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nice work ladies!